Turns out he was just a nut.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1945960.ece

I love it how a priest's notes = more substantial evidence then:

A - the USSR's autopsy
B - German records from WW1

A child's nursery rhyme is more credible than an official USSR document.

Credibility scale:

Childs nursery rhyme > Priest > official USSR document > US rhetoric

So you really think authoritarian communist propaganda is more credible than the accountable, although PR-driven spin of democratic politics? At least in a democracy you can get access to the truth if you look for it.

The Russians, even today are told their economy is going well in the current crisis, so well that Putin says he will need to bail out Wall Street, and will be buying American companies on the cheap. Meanwhile the Russian stock exchange is down 75%, and most of the Russian bailouts are going to prop up the oligarchs. The Russian people have no idea about this and beleive what Putin tells them, that their economy is wonderful, and you really think their system is better than the United States? At least US citizens know their head from their arse, (for the most part).

I really couldn't give a crap what the Russian system is like right now. I don't live there ... I don't have basically any relation to them ... in fact the ONLY relation I have had with them in any way in in my adult life is when they became Capitalist a number of companies sprung up there which marketted and sold copyrighted material. One of those companies used our system to screw over the company I work for. They probably only made a few tens of thousands out of our hard work but thats it.

My point being ... thats completely irrelevant drivel and you know it as well as I do. They're using Western methods to run their country ... and big surprise, they're crime ridden, the poverty gap is bigger then it was under the Tzar's and their politics is incredibly corrupt. In fact ... that brings me right around to my point ... thanks for proving it for me.

See ... the fantastic conservative governments you love so much in the West are nothing more then puppets of big business. For example, in Australia, your hero Howard won 3 elections all on lies. That interest rates wouldn't rise under him but would under Labor (the opposite was true). That there is a flood of people on leaky boats headed for our shores (meanwhile under his laws our immigration police pervert the course of justice by deporting the victims of crimes such as sex trafficking). That Terrorists are going to strike our country (when we're the real international terrorists, plundering our region and helping the USA plunder the world).

I mean do you honestly know a single thing about the system you worship???

Its so strongly based on the rules of conforming and servitude that it only needs to give society subtle little shoves. In the Developed world we tell ourselves so often that we're the beacons of freedom and democracy and that we're morally righteous while behind the scenes our espionage agencies and militaries overthrow the VERY democratic governments that try to give their people freedom, from Guatamala to Chile to Vietnam to Iran to Venezuala ... to AUSTRALIA!!! Your own countries democratic institutions were destroyed because of a god damn CIA directive and you want to tell me about how Russia's political system is corrupt?

DON'T respond to any of my post unless you respond to this:

I mean common ... lets approach this with the same historical consistency we approach Hitler and the Nazi's.

-In 1933 the Reichstag was burnt down. The Nazi's executed a 'socialist' for the crime and the world was divided as to 'whodunit' despite the trial. Some called the trial a sham. Others supported its conclusions. Naturally Hitler won the next election over his Socialist foe and was declared Fuhrer.

-In 1942 Goering bragged that it was he who burnt down the Reichstag. Few historians doubt after that confession that it was anyone but Nazi's who burnt it down. Why? Because it makes perfect sense.

-In 1963 President John F Kennedy is shot in Dallas as the USA goes to war.

-In 1964 the USA uses the pretext of North Vietnamese boats attacking US Navy vessels in the Gulf of Tonkin to publicly commit to a war they already started

-In 1968 Robert Kennedy is shot in Los Angeles soon after he announces his campaign for President with the notion of withdrawal from Vietnam.

-In 1973 Agent Morales, head of the Bay of Pigs assault stated to a close associate "I was in Dallas when we got the son of a bitch and I was in Los Angeles when we got the little bastard."

-In 2005 the NSA release classified files which show that the North Vietnamese were not the aggressors at Tonkin.

A pattern is emerging ... do you see it?

I mean, these are only a few snippets. But the reality is far more beautiful and disgusting them even these small snippets allude to. I can think of 2 famous comments from Soviet journalists as to how, while they had to resort to torture, work camps, executions and sheer oppression to achieve the appearance of similar views on an issue, the West somehow, magically has more uniform views.

And you might say, Kennedy, isn't that all past its used by date. If thats the case, then why the hell are we talking about Hitler still? Or priests who worship a guy who died nearly 2,000 years ago for that matter?

See the only difference between the legitimacy of official Soviet documents and US rhetoric is that occasionally the former can be true while the foundation for the latter is so completely based on lies that it is not even conceivable to consider it historically relevant unless you're talking about how gullible the 'free world' is.

So, let me reiterate my point:

Credibility scale:

Childs nursery rhyme - Some are based on historical events that have been passed down through oral and written tradition

Priest - Preach from a book that has had so many embelishments its almost indistinguishable from fiction

official USSR document - Occasionally, when it suits the party, may reflect the actual nature of things

US rhetoric - Based so heavily on false pretenses and lies that it cannot be regarded as truth by anyone with any common sense

Amazing!

This thread was about Hitler getting his balls shot off in WW1.
3 posts later the thread went into another pissing contest, with my dick is bigger than yours!

Bury the hatchet and get moving ffs. You're acting like 8 year old kids fighting for the last cookie

All the cool kids have no self control.

I just had a good chuckle... Don't spew slogans about a matter you clearly have no idea about.

Perhaps I would take it too far by quoting this man, but in an honesty here...

Yea, gonna ask for a THREAD CLOSING plox. Was meant to be humorous, goddamn.

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Good info comes from FSB headquarters

One more thing: Most of Augustus´ posts reflect being out of touch with reality, which only appears he´s poisoned by american fascists (media), people with a fully functional brain could see that I believe.

Americans sunk their own ship when going to war against Spain, in Pearl Harbor they withdrawn all the carriers- too valuable to be destroyed- always when US wanted to let it feel its species is endangered and best defence is offence. Then not long ago economy was going down- new war was needed- bang WTC+1 buildings down now to Afghanistan, to Iraq- oil to fuel the industry and future wars, to spread laughably democracy, the freedom from lilfe, its just too hard to live so americans come and make it easy for you by shortening your life and destroying your identity. I hope now that it will be too painful for americans so they lock this thread saying no more bs. (cant admit that mostly)

Everyone on the internets has decades of political experience and connections on the inside that really let them know what's going on.

I finally figured it out, Freebie's a Pinko, that's what it is. The USSR was great until it took on the market system.

(Ignoring the fact it doesn't have a market system, but actually a dozen or so oligarchs with organized crime connections who own everything, and what is left is owned by either the security services or Gazprom shell companies)

Good to see that Freebie is still at it.

<3 Freebie

You guys make me wanna punch a baby. 4reelz. Also, it's that Kerry fellow again.

You're wrong. I'm both a Libertarian and a Socialist but before either economic method I am a Democrat. I believe first in open and honest democracy and that this is the path to what I term a 'democratic' economy eg. one where you have the choice to work for the state or for private individuals.

The Soviet Union, the USA and Mao's China are equidistant from my dream state and all 3 have stomped attempts at states like this into the ground, persecuting people for their democratic courage. I despise all 3 systems equally and am therefore not as prone to swallowing their BS as the people like yourself. Now please ... respond to the section of my post where I make my counter-counter-point rather then just making generalised flame-bait and personal attacks.

So... you want best of both worlds??
Like our shiny European Social but still capitalist Democracies? You're welcome, if you shut up once in a while

Actually yes I do believe that of the democratic countries that have survived big business influence and the CIA the social democrat states in Europe are almost my favourite kind. Many are corrupt and nearly all have this absurd notion that in foreign relations they have to play the NATO line and therefore never raise so much as a murmur when democracy is subverted in Latin America or Africa.

Democracy is best when one government gets deep inside the US ass, tries to promote abyss in wealth between workers and those who work in financial sector and firm owners, privatises everything that was built during the previous regime for 50 years almost free. Its all acceptable when you get a few millions on your accounts. Today there is very little that isnt owned by western europe or the US. Energy costs from 1998 to 2006 went roughly up 500%. Because those from france, germany are not interested if you can afford it, they just want´their´money. The money with which they bought our state owned energy firms have already paid back within a few years. Even when prices in other states went down here they demanded another 20% increase (gas from gasprom is sold here by germans & french, nice we cant do it ourselves correctly so we have to give our money to them so they can continue to extort us) Nothing like that happened 20 and more years ago. Personal freedom was partly limited and those with the membership of the commie party had all doors open while others not, but you were never nothing like now. Before you were person now you are number which gives them money and that is all. Even though we were second rate people (´a Czech colony´) where their payment was 30% higher in general it was much better than today´s living standard where you may have bigger salary but most things necessary for living are a few times more expensive. A car was much more affordable. Sometime in 1987 one´s cost was 5000 Kčs- roughly 2-3 monthly salaries (approx. 2000 per month, not much difference between a agro worker or a university teacher). Today the poorest ones are from 250-300 000 with minim. salary at around 9000 to an average 13000 -that is at least a year and a half even if you ate nothing had bought nothing. In schools today religion is at 1/4 comparing to what it was years back, even during socialism religion was allowed because people didnt go to work if authorities didnt alllow their children to be educated in the faith they believed was´right´. Today not only our western media spread american bs how Russia is bad and so on, but here are only the rightist media who without any proof or reason **** on our prime minister (not that I agree with everything he does) saying evidence is pointing at him. Kind of reminds me of how Putin is described by western media, how he is behind Politkovskaja murder and so on even when her son says Putin had nothing with it western (rightist- pro-american or pro-neocon) media still say evidence is pointing at him. Then comes the US- masterminded Georgian aggression, while in the US the media say Russia invaded and so on. Nobody is concerned about encircling of Russia, as if it was natural. Nobody is concerned US didnt sign a treaty against stationing weapons in space, or when in 1990s when nuclear warheads were to be reduced, US reduced lesser number of less powerful missiles than Russia and then didnt sign the treaty (losing little and destroying a lot), expanded its empire via NATO and EU, even though EU seems to be willing to be more independent from the US, as US acts ideologically and EU wants pragmatism over pointless american imperialism- but EU is afraid and from time to time they stick to the british and polish criticising of Russia. They want to believe the US is the saviour and so on. But truly if anyone can see what the US does, he should get himself off the scum that corrupts. Russia on the other hand is no perfect either, but its still the best, most reasonable country without an imperial policy full of lies and deceit, but its policy is based on cooperation and friendly relations.
The next EU presidency will be in Czech hands. They as far as I know want to stick to russophobia by sticking their face further in the ass of the US.(not that the US will help them somehow, they will use them and throw away when no longer needed- see Georgia) Our foreign minister said he would welcome better economic and ties in general with Russia, but Czech politicians as well as Polish fly high and are either out of touch with reality of were/are paid well- or both.
Im not sure if anyone truly sees that. Americans use the media for manipulating people, before we were a catholic nation, now roughly 69% are catholics, 7% reform. augsburg., greek cath. 4,1%, reformed christian church 2%, pravoslav 1% (50000 ppl), arround 3000 jews and 300-1500 muslims (95% not our ppl- from abroad). This is all official but in RL about 10-15% young people do believe there is something more than consum. They usually say its the new age, they believe, but it is not. It is the fact america wants people to believe they are advanced, that atheism - the religion is advanced- even if very primitive worshipping self and doing everything for self should be the highest priority this is what US wants. US wants us to become americans - without faith, empty, thinking that simply science can do everything. I guess I should say Jews (nationally mostly without religion) who think they are uber people who should rule the world through false education and whitewashing- a truly satanistic style. They want to spread misinfo as much they can, family is not what is universal, they now bring on those gays and so on to be married. But know this the only natural non-perversed family is a couple who will not divorce- a man and a woman. Divorce doesnt annull the marriage for example, so anyone who thinks divorce is normal is wrong again.(but there can be a marriage when one is forced and so on- that is there was no marriage really, or based on lies)
Then there comes fashion from America: sex with a person without being married with.(and being kid, no self-control) That is usually a first step for young people to become nothing, lessening their chance of a normal life greatly.(this is where trust diminishes and may later turn into each other accusing of having sb else, then judging everybody else according to your own moral standards- as you are the best- nobody can be trusted after that) When they could not be disciplined and not control themselves before, there is no insurance that person should not seek other´partners´. Kids dont grow themselves and too much wrong knowledge early will destroy any hope of being normal. What is normal you may ask, normal is what was and is natural, discipline is to be learned as well, it is not automatic, but with reason everything may turn up good, even using force is sometimes helpful - its effective only when used rarely- that way its more memorable why you were beaten with reasoning why you shouldnt do it and force as not a bad thing but a thing to help you, which is hard but more or less everyone needs it sometimes . to prevent being too arrogant, just think of yourself being in the other´s position.
So if anybody read my wall of text just think about it dont dismiss it because it doesnt fit in what you are taught whole your life. This post comes from politics to morals, but this is all where the US negativity comes as well- as I mentioned before to destroy your identity and your consciousness. US capitalism only drains resources from the world, it doesnt everybody equal or happy or more wealthy. It makes wealthy only few, but wealth doesnt make health or happyness.
I agree with S F that social democracy is the way to go. Last time I was searching for a job all looked good until I saw american flag on what I was supposed to do business with. I wont work for for an obese idiot eating hamburgers that cant get through door. Home work better than work for evil empire stealing (privatising) any kind of state property, usually paying substandardly and killing innocent people worldwide.

After I clicked the page 2, I was like

If he sends me a large box of headache pills, I might read it all
but pro bably not

Actually it's been working out quite splendidly for alot of Europeans. I'm afraid that's going to change though because Europe has no resources - human or natural.

back to slaves and colonization everyone! j/k

yes!! And Russia will our first colony!!
Lotsa gas, wood, thralls,... long-legged Natashas...
I'll make sure they'll let you live lynxy, you're not that bad

psssst waddayathink I'm doing here in Africa???

Keepin' the black man down?

He's after their Jenkem.

Cos when they're up they're bigger then the white man!

what I really want is their dagga...

The F22 ****s on everything Russian.


USA, USA, USA!!!!!!

You´d wish that

Obvious troll is obvious. Welcome back

**** YEAH!!!!111111

*insert 12 paragraph post on thrust vectoring*

*insert personal flames against random people mixed with semi factual information about how my plane is better than everyone elses which somehow relates to Hitler only having 1 cue ball when playing championship pocket-pool*

*insert 15 page essay on the superiority of elves in comparison to dwarves*
yes, been reading some Tolkien lately

Dude, I have been around some seriously heated convos about that before! That is serious business right there!

yep, and I haven't even mentioned the different species of elves!!
And the stuff they smoke...

Pie > Caek.

The Caek is a lie!

My allegiance is to pie!

Cake > Pie. Unless the cake is a lie.

Nubs, I've got an ultimate proof

a n00b-ish proof for n00bs from a n00b

boobs > noobs

Boobed noobs > noobs

Somebody say boobies? My pager just went off!

Nice Boobies > Pie

Boobed shaped cake > Pie

Unless of course, as stated earlier, the cake is a lie

that's really hard to surpass...
but anyway: boob on top of other boobs ("boobed boob") >> all pastries

On a more serious note: Now that we don´t have the discussion forum, does anybody happen to see the situation is growing more tense in Europe? Beside the economic, I mean the national socialist parties and paramilitary organizations are tolerated. I got the feeling somebody (like the US or somebody with clearly unclean intentions) wants a war in Central-Eastern Europe. Dělnická strana (Workers party) in Czech republic is at least for now trying to solve problems with gypsies (the problem is not as big as made up) baltic states clearly pro-nazi (it cant do anything to Russia, so its a lost cause), on a more serious note what Hungary does is always let as if nothing happened. In EU they say its the problem of nationalists on both sides. Magyars (not Hungarians- multi-ethnic nation) try as hard to assimilate peoples not´Magyar´. Perhaps you´ve heard of Jobbik party which openly spreads jokes about holocaust etc...They say Slovakia is Felvídek. (that is northern land of´magyar´Hungarian state before 1918) This is an attack against the statehood and territorial integrity of our state. They also say they are autochtonnous nation (they were first here and other bs) Then some of their historians adore the fascist state of Horthi, who in ww2 sent non-magyars to the front lines. When the army was destroyed, he said: They werent Magyars anyway.(expendable) Then there were numerous occasions of persecution of Germans, Slovaks and other non-Magyars (that is even killing). Not long ago it was I believe 100. anniversary of the massacre by Magyar police committed against our people when it became known a holy mass was serviced in Slovak language (about 20-50 killed). Then in every village there was a tree where they hanged our people if something they didnt like...One old woman who remembers the days of Austira-Hungary said when she went to school in Budapest, the teacher said they welcomed a new student from slovakia and all looked at her as on something special, because they were fed up with bs we were dumb or God knows what...Even if I´ll jump over WW2 and their attrocities, today our government uses appeasement policy. In our magyar schools they teach Slovak language 4 hours per week. In Magyar ország (Magyar republic) Slovaks learn 4 hours slovak per week. Now they want more (they always want an empire that never existed) That is: we´re too generous comparing to them, we don´t want their land and don´t hate them. However we will not give up sovereignity (at least what remains). That is what they want to accomplish. Like what Albania is in Balkans, Hungary is the same in Central Europe. All that seems to be fine with some people who would use it to make a possibly new big war or yet another US stunt, which would of course jump on Hungary´s side. Then we would be demonized and entire NATO would prey on its unwanted member. (not that NATO doesnt want us, we dont want nato) So after they would´rape´us, then they could disintegrate our state and make new Kosovo, in which another big base and missile silos would be built. This is just my speculation, but US seems in need of a new short war for its industry, but that would take a while to alienate our nations. Hungarian side does that well. Were never the provocator, like Poland or baltic states. Funny thing: our hungarian party (SMK) in EP tries to made us evil in the eyes of entire Europe so they can do whatever they want. First brainwash everybody into: its them who´s evil and then repeat according to Saakashvili receipt. (which apparently failed because of Russia)

Nazis & fascists in Europe are financed by somebody to create instability which would either bring problems of old or create new ones. It doesnt happen all by itself simultaneously. Our people (Ive been reading about us past few weeks) are friendly towards Russia and are open to any kind of cooperation based on mutual benefits and strengthening relations with them.(ne s evrosojuzom ) That may also be a thing westerners don´t like. Serbia was destroyed because of its resources and its traditionality and for its being a close Russian ally. Propaganda turned them from defenders to aggressors, US bombed civilians with carpet bombs knowingly. Im not sure who if not the US sponsored them. More instability in Europe the better for the US.