[Dr. Destructo]

Hello there, I thought I'd share these models with the bf2 modding community. I was going to post them on bfeditor.org, but since POE2 is the mod I get the most fun out of I'll post them here first. Feel free to download, modify & link to them (maxfiles & psd also included in the package).

This is my attempt at getting some next-gen flavor into bf2: it's a set of 3 stage destroyable walls. You heard it right- 3 stages! OMG! You get the 3rd level of damage by hiding a final static wrecked wall model inside the destroyables, so when the wrecks blow up it's revealed.

Walls are 8m long with 5m & 2.5m heights, with plain, doorway & window versions. Turn on scale 1 snapping & you can snap them in place quickly. Also remember to fit the 'base_wreck' statics underneath them to give you that final level of destruction.

There's 3 different frameworks for the walls to fit into, plus the low walls have a static pillar for using them as typical bounding walls. There's a destroyable metal fence too with custom destruction effect for extra lols.

The only drawback is that these models have lightmap generation turned off- you need dynamic shadows for this kind of object, which bf2 doesn't do. But most people play with lightmaps off anyway, so screw that. Exploding takes priority over realistic illumination any day.

I think a map with overcast lighting (like the Olesko settings) & a dim overhead sun would look ok. I made them look sort of half constructed (with no roof panels) to lessen the oddness of bright interiors.

Anyway here's some pics followed by the files, so hopefully a mapper can play around with them & create some explodey goodness for us all

This post has been edited by DrunkenPirate: 17 April 2008 - 05:12 PM

[Illicitfilms]

i like

[Dr. Destructo]

Thanks You did one of my fave maps ever- Steel Thunder. I'd love to have these kind of structures on a woodland armor map similar to that. Or Rolling thunder, another favorite. Basically any map with 'Thunder'. Perhaps 'Operation: Exploding Thunder'...

I'd recommend no arty or combat aircraft with these models though- they'd cause way too much rapage of the walls.

[Ga-Knomboe Boy]

Thats totally bad arse. I'd love to use them.

[DrunkenPirate]

This is awesome.

[chew6acca]

Is there any chance this could make it into the next release?

[Ga-Knomboe Boy]

I'd like to see it included. However it depends on whether Dr. Destructo allows us to include it in the mod.

[Dr. Destructo]

Course you can use it in the mod, you can flog it on ebay too. I don't care, I just need to explode things.

If you do include them in the mod, one thing you might do for optimizing & matching the bf2 statics is to shrink the texture (everything fits onto one texture) down to 256x1024. That way you'll get the same pixel res. Blocky but cool, like Volvo.

This post has been edited by Dr. Destructo: 04 April 2008 - 11:35 AM

[Smokeyandthebandit]

I think it looks odd without a roof and I'm sure most people could overlook the brightness.

[Dr. Destructo]

yeah i think you're right. what i'll do is make some half-constructed roof paneling objects that can snap over the frames, that way it looks like it's halfway towards a wreck. then the mapper can choose to add them & have different versions (empty frames too). will try this out later...

[Dr. Destructo]

here ya go, not structurally correct but it's poly efficient & functional:

[Dr. Destructo]

I can't wait any longer to explode some walls, so I'm going to have a go at a map. It'll be fairly basic & just a 1km square terrain, 32p size only with 5 flag areas (2 main uncaps, 3 cp's). Going to kinda rip off Rolling Thunder cos that's such a solid map. Sketch-



-symmetrical layout, uncap base per team spawning tanks n jeeps, no aircraft or arty (so walls don't get blown so quickly/often)

-the 2 industrial areas (using the destroyable walls) are similar to the warehouse flag on Rolling Thunder, with a static bridge as a choke point on one side, meaning each team has a defensive advantage on one of them.

-central flag is 2 big rail/road bridges, each 8m wide. River can be crossed underneath, & there'll be a service platform crossing the top of both bridges making it a vertical space & not too much of a choke point.

-scenario of the map is germans/US attacking ukranian munitions factory/freight (in trains), so the ukr uncap is like a permanent military base while the other team's uncap looks like a temporary rally point (hasty defences, camo netting etc)

-weapon pickups around map in train freight cars

-terrain is rolling hills (making it easy to drive over) with patches of dense trees/bushes, slightly more foliage than rolling thunder has.


So, any thoughts on this?

[Ga-Knomboe Boy]

Sounds like fun, have you made many maps before?

[Dr. Destructo]

I've started a few but they never got finished (always decided they were crap & moved on with better ideas), so at least I know the ins & outs of the level editor.

I'll have a go blocking something out as a standard bf2 map (bf2 mod folder, objects in bf2 also) & post wips. Then if it's any good I'll resave as a poe2 map.

Are there any specific design issues for laying out CPs on a poe map? Eg. a certain radius, or player spawns a certain distance away?

[Ga-Knomboe Boy]

Have a read of this thread, it explains all the PoE editor queries.

http://www.pointofex...d...t=0&start=0

[Illicitfilms]

layout and concept looks good, get to work!

[Heartburn]

This NEEDS to be put into PoE2. Amazing job, Dr. Destructo!

~Heartburn

[Superliga]

Actually Dr. Destructo has created what EA/DICE had promised us with BF2 in the first place, but they didn't manage to do it properly, so they quit the idea...

This is so brilliant that it for sure should be included in the mod as soon as possible, this would make PoE2 very unique

[Daarken]

It looks great and promissing, however we do not use objects, models, statics, etc from sources that are outside of PoE's circle of developers.
So if Dr.Destructo wants his models and statics in game, he would have to apply and become a dev for PoE2.


So.. do it man!

[Dr. Destructo]

i'd be honored to be a dev, but i know i'd be rubbish at it- i'll probably get sick of bf2 after this map & never touch the editor again (the load times are already driving me spare). let's see how this map goes & maybe you could give me some kind of contractor-like status?

here's the map so far, calling it 'depot' at the moment, & there's a few new models including a big truss bridge (an old model cleaned up & now uses just a 512x512 texture, non-destroyable):




couple of questions:

1. should the central truss bridge be single instead of a double road/rail layout? it could have the flag on the bridge itself (& not the island), & a train on it acting like a military objective (secure munitions cargo).

2. should i fill out the map with more of the stock bf2 buildings, or will they seem odd being non-destroyable while the consite flag areas are fully destroyable?